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"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat) 10/16/2016 at 12:33 • Filed to: None

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I’m inclined to buy something newer this time and these are the options. I’m buying it next week, so I don’t have much time to pick. HALP

A) Passat Variant 2.0 Turbo -2012

B) Audi A4 2.0T (facelift, with the rather wonderful new steering wheel)- 2012

C) Mercedes C180 CGI Advantage- 2012

There are a couple of oddballs too:

-2012 Legacy

-2013 Merc B200 1.6T

-2012 A3 1.4T

-2011 Freelander (I can’t control myself)

S65 > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:35

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PASSAT

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:36

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The A4 out of those options I would say. The passat is going to be slightly behind in the quality department and the Mercedes has a slightly cheap looking and feeling interior in my opinion.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:38

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“Passat Variant” has to be the bluntest name for a car ever.

My citroen won't start > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/16/2016 at 12:40

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Weird thing is that I prefer the interior on the Merc, the A4 is the best all-rounder but I hate the central console.

My citroen won't start > S65 10/16/2016 at 12:40

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But isn’t it a bit too boring?

My citroen won't start > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 10/16/2016 at 12:41

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It is an efficient name, a Passat, but a different variant.

S65 > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:41

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A bit, stock at least

My citroen won't start > S65 10/16/2016 at 12:43

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I was considering R-Line wheels, but that’s about it.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:43

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A4 hands down. Spent some time in both a pre and post facelift versions and was simply amazed by the interior feel and materials.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:46

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The mercedes is a decent looking design, its just that every one ive been in had premature wear of some kind. The centre console trim particularly seems to work loose and rattle.

My citroen won't start > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/16/2016 at 12:48

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Yeesh, I’ll look into that, the Merc is also quite anaemic when compared to the others (156HP)

Cherry_man1 > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:49

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I say the Audi

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 10/16/2016 at 12:49

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Is the Passat a lot worse in the quality department?

S65 > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:49

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I would go with VW Austins

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:56

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I think the C class is a decent car but it just doesnt quite measure up to the A4, IS and 3 series for me. Ive been in some really high mileage 3 series and a4s recently (company cars) and they were still fairly solid, but the C class we have just dont seem built to last interior wise. Admittedly i dont know a huge amount else about them besides that.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 12:57

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Probably not but I’ve only ever been in a last gen Passat once and it was rather dissappointing, like 1 1/2 steps below the A4. (I was slightly drunk when I rode in the Passat though). It’s probably better in the higher end Passats.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/16/2016 at 13:07

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The facelifted ones, like above, have completely different interiors from pre-facelift and are much higher quality.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 13:09

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I would avoid a 204 unless it has a V6 or 4-pot diesel. The M271 isn’t exactly a crown jewel of engineering achievement.

Svend > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 13:11

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Audi A4.

The Merc does nothing for me, but nor does any Merc frankly.

The Subaru, the same as the Merc (though I do like the Subaru Levorg so it’s not all Subarus I don’t like).

The Audi A3 is nice solid, reliable and fuel efficient and for me the only alternative to the A4.

The VW Passat ‘variant’ isn’t the Passat we know over here in the U.K. and Europe and be all accounts isn’t as good as the Euro model and I’m not keen on ours for that matter.

The Freelandie is okay if that’s what your into.

My citroen won't start > Svend 10/16/2016 at 13:17

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Are you sure the EU Passat is different? From my knowledge our Passat is (was) imported from Germany

Klaus Schmoll > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 13:21

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the one in your pic is the euro passat. No variant/wagon with the decontented US version.

Svend > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 13:25

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Yes. From 2011 the U.S. got the NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and are built in Chattanooga.

The U.S. and China models are built on the old Group B, while the Euro model is on the MQB platform.

Amoore100 > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 13:41

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A C6! C’mon, you know you want it...

My citroen won't start > Svend 10/16/2016 at 13:46

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Brazil got the EU I think.

My citroen won't start > Klaus Schmoll 10/16/2016 at 13:46

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Yes, the Passat we got in Brazil is that one.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 14:15

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S600 ?

Svend > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 14:32

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Ye, the NMS was a U.S., Canada, Mexico and China model.

I’ve just seen your reply to Klaus, ‘we got in Brazil’.

I apologise. I thought you were in the U.S., my bad.

Ye, everyone other than North America and China got the new essentially.

By all accounts the Euro Passat is a nicer place to be than the North American one.

I had the Skoda Superb Mk2 which was related to the Passat and was a great car. The Skoda matched it in build quality and refinement but the Skoda beat it on practicality and comfort.

If it was anything as good as the Skoda it’ll be worth checking out.

The Passat will be a little roomier than the A4 so it’s down to whether you want comfort and pace or the A4, more compact but more rapid.

nlzmo400r > My citroen won't start 10/16/2016 at 16:06

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The A6 is the obvious choice of these if a wagon isn’t a necessity.